Episode 5: Elliot Jones aka Lord Bongtimore – A conversation on addiction and recovery

by jilleien

A little more about our guest

I wasn’t shocked at the response when I told people I was going on Lord Bongtimore’s Podcast and he would be on Conversations with MaryJane. Their response had less to do with him and more about what they knew about me. They knew my methods to end the stigma and how LB’s methods are exactly the opposite of mine.

What they didn’t know is that I have been watching and asking questions about LB for the last year. Piecing together what I thought maybe an amazing life to share. This curiosity of LB stemmed from me being “loved on” like only “The Lord” can do. You can hear the entire story on Let’s Toke About It.

Before there was Lord Bongtimore aka The Sultan of Sativa aka Bobby Fisher of BHO…there was Elliot. 

Elliot’s first drug was a cigarette, he recalled how it made him feel and that was the moment.

Fast forward – he is homeless in Philadelphia where he spent most of the day shooting up heroin. By the time he got one fix he would start to work on the next one.  Up to 10 times a day he would repeat this process. 

When I asked Elliot what advice he would give family members who have someone with addiction in their life, his response was everything you would expect it to be.

“They say you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink…You’ve got to make that mother fucker thirsty.

Thoughts after the show

After the show, I sat for a while really trying to figure out what the subject of the show was. Yes, we discussed addiction, but that was not it. Was it about overcoming extreme challenges? Still no. Then a feeling flooded over me. It’s about forgiveness.

Elliot said something during the show that has stuck with me. “while some actions may never be forgiven, the actor can always be.” How profound and not practiced in our society.

Not only are we not forgiving each other, but even worse we are not forgiving ourselves and in turn, we are disconnecting with who we are as a person.  Is it any wonder everyone is pissed off and popping off.

Google “what does lack of forgiveness cause” and the first article that pops up is from Johns Hopkins…

“Chronic anger puts you into a fight-or-flight mode, which results in numerous changes in heart rate, blood pressure, and immune response. Those changes, then, increase the risk of depression, heart disease, and diabetes, among other conditions.”

To me, even more, dangerous than the health effects is that lack of forgiveness drives disconnection from others, including ourselves. We begin to hate and despise the precious gift that our life is.

That is when someone begins to seek other forms of connection and belonging.

“Almost 21 million Americans have at least one addiction, yet only 10% of them receive treatment. Drug overdose deaths have more than tripled since 1990. From 1999 to 2017, more than 700,000 Americans died from overdosing on a drug. Alcohol and drug addiction cost the U.S. economy over $600 billion every year.” Johns Hopkins Medicine.

I am just wondering if forgiveness and connection were in abundance in someone’s life if their addiction would never come to be?

Here are a few articles on the health benefits of forgiveness. 




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